Giambi Admits to Juicing

Batgirl is shocked, SHOCKED!

From the NY Times:

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- New York Yankees slugger Jason Giambi injected himself with human growth hormone in 2003 and also used steroids for at least three seasons, according to his grand jury testimony that was reviewed by the San Francisco Chronicle.

The testimony given in December 2003 to the federal grand jury investigating BALCO contradicts Giambi's public proclamations that he never used performance-enhancing drugs.

Baseball probably could not punish Giambi. Penalties for illegal steroid use began in 2004.

Giambi described how he injected human growth hormone in his stomach, testosterone into his buttocks, rubbed an undetectable steroid knows as ``the cream'' on his body and placed drops of another, called ``the clear,'' under his tongue, the Chronicle reported Thursday.

Also, ewwwwww.

Posted by Batgirl at December 2, 2004 10:08 AM
Comments

HOLY CRAP! The first thing I saw was "Batgirl is shocked", and my stomach dropped to the floor. I thought Bradke was gone.

I agree with Batgirl....ewwwwwww totally! YUCK!!

Posted by: Stacy at December 2, 2004 11:11 AM

Rumor has it "the cream" and "the paste" are processed byproducts of Nick Punto.

Posted by: jianfu at December 2, 2004 11:16 AM

Reading This ?

Makes me want to claw out my eyes with a cocktail fork.

Eeeeeeeewwwwww. Good Lord, indeed!

Posted by: Garage Logician at December 2, 2004 11:27 AM


Well, DUH. The dude is a neckless gorilla. Like anybody is really surprised.

Posted by: TwinsGoddess at December 2, 2004 11:31 AM

Garage Logician-
Can I borrow that cocktail fork when you're done with it.

And, of course, I'm totally shocked as well. (And the first line unintentionally scared me, too. I should learn to read headlines.)

Just Beth
(GL--my CI is 4.)

Posted by: Just Beth at December 2, 2004 11:42 AM

He admitted to doing all of this in 2003. Of course, I'm sure he stopped doing it in 2004 after MLB issued a new drug policy.

Right.

Posted by: BadAndy48 at December 2, 2004 11:52 AM

Well look how different he looked this last year, like a normal person instead of some primal beast. I'd say he stopped taking SOMETHING to stop him looking like a human c. 2,000,000 BC.

Posted by: Mimiru at December 2, 2004 12:08 PM

I broke that THIS MORNING! (see last post...)
Ugh i HATE JASON GIAMBI. He's gross.

Posted by: Sasha at December 2, 2004 12:18 PM

Rampant steroid abuse for years, eh Jason? Kinda makes one wonder where that pituitary tumor came from.

Posted by: BostonPhil at December 2, 2004 12:28 PM

No surprises here. My friend Bella always used to refer to the heart of the line-up on the Oakland A's as "the steroid brothers." Plus, I agree the pituitary tumor should probably give some others pause for thought.

Posted by: Word Smith at December 2, 2004 12:38 PM

I really don't have too much to add here. According to the ESPN.com report, Jason began taking steroids after the 2002 season (his first with the Yankees, and 2 after he had won the MVP). So I have to ask -- if that is true...why? Why, if you won an MVP and were (really) one of the most feared hitters in the majors, would you change anything? Baseball players are notorious for not changing anything (adjust the cup, one step right, one step left, adjust wristguards, hop on one leg...ok, it worked in little league...) so why add STEROIDS to the mix?

Here's another angle for you -- the Giambi brothers are now the posterboys for anti-steroid use. If MLB (and parents in general for that matter) really want to show the dangers of steroids, here's your prime example.

First, you have Jason. Was an all-star, good enough to command a $120 million, seven year contract from the (then dominant) NEW YORK YANKEES! And you know what? He was, without a doubt, that good. So he starts taking steroids. His limbs start to crack, developes cancer in his pituitary, and likely will be all but out of baseball soon. He took a train that was on a long, profitable track to success and fame, and derailed it for no apparent reason. Good job Jase. You have disgraced the game. Get in line.

Or you could be Jeremy (a little aside: you know those Highlights magazines where they have Goofus and Gallant show you the right and wrong way to act? Like Goofus spits food on people when he talks at the dinner table, Gallant chews with his mouth closed and finishes before speaking? I feel like Jason and Jeremy are Goofus and Goofest. Oh well.) Anyway, Jeremy takes the steroids too. Only he was never good, so maybe he thinks "If I take these, maybe I can be like Jason too!" Well guess what, not only did you ruin your body, increase your chances of cancer, etc.... but also...wait for it... YOU NEVER BECAME A GREAT BASEBALL PLAYER! So Jeremy -- why?

Finally, for those of you screaming "conspiracy" after the Aaron Boone incident last offseason... I wonder if Giambi has a clause in his contract regarding "conduct detrimental to the team" or some other catch-all. I'm not sayin nothin, I'm just sayin...

YankeeFan


Posted by: YankeeFan at December 2, 2004 01:04 PM

The thing is, I find it hard to believe Jason "started" using steroids in 2002. Honestly, think back on all those A's with upper arms the size of a normal person's thighs... and we already know that McGwire was taking SOMETHING.

Posted by: Word Smith at December 2, 2004 01:25 PM

Smitty,

As usual, I agree with you. It is the contrapositive to my rant -- there would have been no reason for him to start taking steriods in 2002 -- he took them to get to where he was by 2002.

Wonder if McGwire was taking BALCO-type products and used the andro controversy to diffuse the situation. Think about it -- it's not a banned substance, explains the muscles, etc. and people are left to debate whether or not is SHOULD be banned. If that's the case, pure genius on his (or his P.R. rep's) part.

YankeeFan

Posted by: YankeeFan at December 2, 2004 02:02 PM

Giambi is a classic case of what happens when someone starts replying to Internet Spam. I wonder what else the neckless Gorilla ordered?

Posted by: RonDavis at December 2, 2004 02:36 PM

how awesome would it be if the yanks could void the rest of that albatross contract? oh how i would do dances in the street.
suspend him. 50 games, a year, whatever. bar him from the hall of fame. be harsh, make an example, and all that. hopefully bonds is next.

Posted by: jordan at December 2, 2004 03:43 PM

Intriguing thought, YankeeFan, and quite plausible.

Posted by: Word Smith at December 2, 2004 04:07 PM

What this makes me wonder is, maybe, it will bring down Bonds. I don't want him to be falsely accused but if he has done steroids I can't wait for him to be outed. I would savor that, that all his inhuman accomplishments were just that, not human. I would love to see what the Bonds lovers would say to that.

Re: Giambi, it's not like the Yankees can stop paying him. They will still habe to pay him $70 million so aside from the health risk it's not like this damaged his career in regards to making money.

Posted by: Mimiru at December 2, 2004 04:46 PM

A couple of follow-up thoughts (as if you didn't know they were coming):

Mimiru - I don't know about that. The league has (albeit very lax) rules regarding banned substances. If he is suspended from the league and can't play, then the Yanks may not have to pay him. If he is banned from baseball entirely (as suggested by Jordan) then I doubt the Yanks would have to pay him. My question was directed more towards how they got out of their obligation to Aaron Boone. Boone had a clause that prohibited offseason basketball somehow (I don't remember) and were able to outright release him. If there is a clause (which, if you think about it, there should be) that allows termination of a contract without obligation if a player is a) convicted of a felony, b) caught using a banned substance or c) engages in conduct unbefitting a Yankee (ok, those get less plausible as you go) then the Yanks could get rid of that "albatross contract." (well stated Jordan). Seeing as how violation of MLB's banned substance policy carry their own penalties, such a clause probably doesn't exist in the contract (also, consider Steve Howe, Darryl Strawberry and Dwight Gooden as examples of contracts that weren't voided) and we're likely stuck with the 'Tross.

YankeeFan

P.S. Jordan - as if Giambi was a Hall of Fame candidate before today's announcement :)


Posted by: YankeeFan at December 2, 2004 06:03 PM

I would like to see a study on all of the players that have taken steroids and their career paths along side it, to see if their is any statistical significance between use and performance.

Obviously, steroids helped Caminiti win the MVP. There's no way Caminiti circa 1988 could hit even 15 homers with that build. I don't think most people would argue that steroids can make you hit the ball farther.

But my oh my they can't make you hit a ball better. If Bonds is found to have used steroids, then whatever the league wants to do to make an example of him is fine and well deserved. But drugs could never possibly make someone into the hitter he is.

To think Babe Ruth took performance-trashing drugs and what he could have done had he been healthy.

Posted by: TheBentKangaroo at December 2, 2004 06:14 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if Steinbrenner is the reason this story broke. The Yanks have been trying to find a way to get out of his contract.

me, personally , I hope this is the spark that is need to set the fire to get these drugs out of the game, and also bring respect back to the records.

I know Big Mac said he used andro and creatine during 98, not sure if and hgh was used, but I am pretty sure that guys like Bonds and Sosa have been on roids, and it damages the records and cheapens what guys like Aaron and Ruth did for real.

Posted by: mike at December 2, 2004 08:09 PM

Hear, hear.

Posted by: Batgirl at December 2, 2004 08:33 PM

"But my oh my they can't make you hit a ball better. If Bonds is found to have used steroids, then whatever the league wants to do to make an example of him is fine and well deserved. But drugs could never possibly make someone into the hitter he is."

You're missing the damn point. Instead of 700 HR, we'd be talking about 300 HR and 400 doubles. Not bad by any stretch of the imagination but not deserving of the praise.

I don't care one bit if he hits the ball or not, I care about him getting acolades he does not deserve to recieve. Stick that in your hand and deal it Gleeman.

Posted by: Mimiru at December 3, 2004 05:29 AM

Mimiru: Just wanted to point out that Bonds had already hit 374 HR and 359 doubles *before* Greg Anderson became his personal trainer and hooked him up with BALCO. Sounds like a pretty good hitter to me.

Posted by: tribescribe at December 3, 2004 11:20 AM